Afternoon Court Report for May 16th by Steve

Court Report May 16 9:30pm

Here is my summary of the afternoon of May 16.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Because the government overran their time, the case will continue on THURSDAY morning at 9:30 (not Wednesday). Note the time change (not 10:00). Not sure of the room number. Will post it later.

Legalities require me to tell you that I'm not a lawyer and this document contains only my interpretations of what was said in court and my opinions. Nothing in this document should ever be construed as advice. This applies to my previous posts as well and they will be modified to note this.

Well, we knew this would be a more difficult day, since the government would be doing all the talking. As mentioned in my previous post, the morning was simply a semantic dance around breed definitions. The afternoon was much different.

The purpose the afternoon presentation was to attempt to persuade the judge that pit bulls need to be treated differently from other dogs. As such, pit bulls must be shown to be more dangerous, so much effort was put into this. If they are successful in this attempt, than that would go towards proving the risk to public safety that is required for legislation to be considered reasonable.

The crown discussed their evidence, originally received back in February and March, related to six separate attacks by dogs that were identified as pit bulls. They discussed the details of each attack, including graphic descriptions of the attacks themselves, of the injuries they caused, of the repair and recuperation required, and of the long-term effects of these attacks. Five out of the six attacks were horrific in nature. The other, although injurious to humans, particularly children, did not result in quite the level of injury, but was used in part to try to show the tenacity of the attacking dogs.

The six incidents were:

Carrie Hewitson (young adult, Brantford, 3 dogs, 2003)
Darlene Wagner (postal worker, Chatham, 2 dogs, 2004)
Robert Adams and brother (12 and 4 year old boys, Ottawa, 2 dogs, 2005)
Jadon Laroux (sp?) (2 year old boy, Ottawa, 3 dogs, 2005) and father and neighbour
Lauren Harper (5 year old daughter of Louise Ellis, Toronto, 1 dog, 1994)
Tom Skeldon testimony (young boy, Ohio, unknown number of dogs)

I understand that no part of the witnesses' testimonies related to these attacks was challenged by Mr. Ruby.Crown also presented the testimonies of various police officers related to shooting attacking pit bulls. Judge asked if other non pit bull breeds had ever had to be shot by police officers. Crown was unable to answer this because no evidence had been introduced regarding this. The lawyers and the judge can only deal with evidence that had already been introduced back in February and March.

Crown made two points regarding targeting pit bulls:

1. The legislature has perceived pit bulls as a problem and has the right to address it.

2. It is not the role of this court to determine the wisdom of the legislation, just its constitutionality.

Later, the judge made a comment that a number of the attacks listed seem to clearly indicate a problem with the owners rather than with a particular type of dog. She also made the argument that we know well, that problem owners will simply move to a different breed.

Crown's answer, after what I assume was a discussion amongst their lawyers during the break, came back and discussed how assault weapons are not allowed in this country, no matter how good an owner you may be. He describe pit bulls as the "assault weapons of the canine world".

The test for overbreadth is gross disproportionality, the proof of which rests with the applicant (us). It is a valid state interest to protect the public from harm.

How much harm do you need to justify the state interest? One judicial decision stated that, once it has been demonstrated that the harm is not trivial or insignificant, then it is Parliament's job to determine how much to legislate.

A reasoned apprehension of harm is all that is required. Government does not have to scientifically or statistically prove the harm exists before legislating preventive measures.

In one case discussed earlier, obedience training was a suggested alternative for management of a pit bull. Crown argues that muzzling and leashing are also valid and reasonable management tools and that sterilization is the ultimate management tool that eventually eliminates the risk of harm entirely.